Here is the best rules i could think of for this

ok

All Pokemon Like

Arceus
darakie
mew
mewtwo

etc etc

may ONLY be used in trades not in battles because i still beleive they are hacks. anyone using them in battles will be banned for life

i have mew and i wanted to use it to battle but thats ok, ur right it is a hack but i didnt know that when i got it from my friend.

does
jirachi, celebi & deoxys count?
because the water gymleader (i forgot the name) said i can use them

Here is a list of all the ubers/legends NOT allowed in battle unless said otherwise

Mewtwo
Mew
Lugia
Ho-oh
Wobbuffett
Kyogre
Groudon
Rayquaza
Latias
Latios
Palkia
Dialga
Giratina
Arceus
Darkrai
Manaphy

Hope that helps!

wat are so bad about legendary pokemon? they aren't like darkrai and other hacked/ uber pokemon. so why cant we use them. i see legendary pokemon as signs of strength. you can't catch or defeat them with weak pokemon, you need strong pokemon. you also need to get past half the game before getting them. its like taiming them. my best pokemon are legendary (kyogre & rayquaza).

yes, legendaries do show you have awesome power by showing you can catch them, but they have WAY higher stats than any normal pokemon and that makes them cheap. They also have special moves that belong only to them that are super powerful. That is the reason why ubers/legendaries aren't allowed.

their stats arent like 400s. but i kinda understand.
but legendary pokemon are easy to kill if u hit them with a super affective hit.
rayquaza dies with blizzard and ice beam
groudon dies with surf and hydro pump
mew2 and mew dies sometimes with shadow ball and dark pulse
ho-oh and lugia are the only ones with their own attack
aeroblast and sacred fire.
unless you use mimic.

their stats do reach the 400s or even 500s (I think with deoxys its possible. Attack form)
giratina has shadow force, palkia spacial rend, dialga roar of time, arceus judgment, darkrai dark void, shaymin seed flare (though shaymin doesn't count as an uber, you can only get it by hacking right now)
even supereffective moves, as much as 4x damage still wont kill them sometimes. Thats why they're cheap. They have way higher stats than other pokemon and makes the others obsolete, taking the fun out of the game

i had 12 deoxys all attack form and none were over 400.
i forgot about those other pokemon. i was thinking more of the old legendary pokemon.
i guess u are right. and u can get shaymin without hacking.

deoxys in attack form can hit 504 sp atk or atk IF you have a sp atk or atk raising nature, 252 evs in the atk that the nature raises, and 31 IVs in that same stat (rare,but possible). Deoxys in spd form can reach 504 speed if you have a speed raising nature, 252 evs and 31 IVs in spd

well ive never seen one.
but i saw a jolteon with a speed of 368.

its possible, just rare
my weavile has a spd of 376

i have a tyranitar with a sp. def of 385

its hacked then. Tyranitar cant hit over 325 (or somewhere around there) special defense

EV trained.
And iron.
Its a tyranitar, they have strong sp. def to begin with.
Its not hacked. I worked very hard on it.

Ok first of use serbii to tell if a poke is hacked and so far every pokemon is catchable besides arceurs shaymin and darkia.

Also I can beat anyone who is using ubers or legends(if not hacked) while i use non ubers or legends

Lol your funny. Good joke.

I got a mew I got it from a special event at indooroopilly shopping town (in australia)
I trained it to level 100, and the only good move it has is metronome, and it's stats arn't exactly what you call uber. in fact i wouldnt really use it any way.

cool so i can use my shaymin and phione cressilia heatren and regigigas